New Yorkers, I find, are world champions in taking the most mundane, tasteless and run-of-the-mill foodstuffs and assigning a mythical, and totally made-up, quality to it, which can only be achieved within the five boroughs.
A roll with a hole? Only in New York! An unremarkable cheap-o processed sausage, which any self-respecting German wouldn't feed to his dog? You haven't lived until you've tried Nathan's Famous! A mess of boiled beef between two slices of yesterday's bread? New York, baby! A burnt-black pizza with rat feces for toppings? Can only be gotten here.
It's not so much that you CAN'T find good pizza, corned beef, or hot dogs (admittedly, the only good Nathan's is the original on Coney Island. The rest is dreck) in other places. It's just that it's so EASY to find them in NYC.
In Atlanta there's good pizza in a few places but you have to look. Philly may have the best corned beef sandwich I've ever had, but that's one place in a sea of terribleness. New York? You can walk into almost any pizza place (or whatever) and know it's gonna be good.
I don't know, the pizza and sandwich selection in Chicago is pretty uniformly excellent. The hot dog selection is also quite good if you are fan of Chicago style hot dogs (which I am not).
Yes, bagels are better in New York, but they are also a local specialty.
Oh, no doubt -- Chicago (the whole Midwest really) totally shreds the City when it comes to the tubed meat category.
Pizza on the other hand is purely a personal preference thing. I happen to like the thinner NY variety but far be it from me to judge those who'd rather the deep dish.
I know you were being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think there's a big Jewish community in Canton, OH. Now Shaker Heights on the other hand.....
What I meant in the above post (#2 in the thread) is that, when you get down to it, hot dogs and corned beef are nothing to get excited about. One is the cheapest and least sophisticated kind of sausage available, and Americans don't do it very well anyway. Saying that the Coney Island dogs are the best in the world is akin to saying that American "cheese" is the best processed cheese-like product in the world. And the other is just boiled beef with peppercorns. There aren't too many ways of corning the damn beef and New Yorkers are no better and no worse at it than anyone else. They only thing they excel it is stuffing about half a cow's worth between two slices of stale bread, giving it to a rude waiter to serve you and calling it fabulous.
As for pizza, deep dish is an abomination and nobody in the US comes close to the Italian originals anyway.
re: Canton. Having attended a wedding in North Canton, I can speak from personal experience: Thar be a LOT of Jews there!
Also, there may be no better pre-wedding entertainment than a visit to the NFL Hall of Fame. Just something to keep in mind if you have upcoming nuptials.
Good bagels in Chicago
ReplyDeleteNew Yorkers, I find, are world champions in taking the most mundane, tasteless and run-of-the-mill foodstuffs and assigning a mythical, and totally made-up, quality to it, which can only be achieved within the five boroughs.
ReplyDeleteA roll with a hole? Only in New York!
An unremarkable cheap-o processed sausage, which any self-respecting German wouldn't feed to his dog? You haven't lived until you've tried Nathan's Famous!
A mess of boiled beef between two slices of yesterday's bread? New York, baby!
A burnt-black pizza with rat feces for toppings? Can only be gotten here.
Carry on, Noo Yawkahs. Carry on.
I loved Chicago. The bagels? Less so...
ReplyDeleteIt's not so much that you CAN'T find good pizza, corned beef, or hot dogs (admittedly, the only good Nathan's is the original on Coney Island. The rest is dreck) in other places. It's just that it's so EASY to find them in NYC.
In Atlanta there's good pizza in a few places but you have to look. Philly may have the best corned beef sandwich I've ever had, but that's one place in a sea of terribleness. New York? You can walk into almost any pizza place (or whatever) and know it's gonna be good.
That's what NYC has going for it.
I don't know, the pizza and sandwich selection in Chicago is pretty uniformly excellent. The hot dog selection is also quite good if you are fan of Chicago style hot dogs (which I am not).
DeleteYes, bagels are better in New York, but they are also a local specialty.
Chicago pizza > New York pizza
ReplyDeleteChicago hot dogs > New York hot dogs
Chicago Italian Beef >>>>>> anything in NYC
Chicago Cubs....ok, ok; I'll quit while I'm ahead.
Oh, no doubt -- Chicago (the whole Midwest really) totally shreds the City when it comes to the tubed meat category.
ReplyDeletePizza on the other hand is purely a personal preference thing. I happen to like the thinner NY variety but far be it from me to judge those who'd rather the deep dish.
I know you were being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think there's a big Jewish community in Canton, OH. Now Shaker Heights on the other hand.....
ReplyDeleteWhat I meant in the above post (#2 in the thread) is that, when you get down to it, hot dogs and corned beef are nothing to get excited about. One is the cheapest and least sophisticated kind of sausage available, and Americans don't do it very well anyway. Saying that the Coney Island dogs are the best in the world is akin to saying that American "cheese" is the best processed cheese-like product in the world.
ReplyDeleteAnd the other is just boiled beef with peppercorns. There aren't too many ways of corning the damn beef and New Yorkers are no better and no worse at it than anyone else. They only thing they excel it is stuffing about half a cow's worth between two slices of stale bread, giving it to a rude waiter to serve you and calling it fabulous.
As for pizza, deep dish is an abomination and nobody in the US comes close to the Italian originals anyway.
re: Canton. Having attended a wedding in North Canton, I can speak from personal experience: Thar be a LOT of Jews there!
ReplyDeleteAlso, there may be no better pre-wedding entertainment than a visit to the NFL Hall of Fame. Just something to keep in mind if you have upcoming nuptials.